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Help needed with Linux in school
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sen kumar
2008-05-11 11:24:37 UTC
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Dear Friends,

I am a teacher in a government school in Viluppuram. We have received
computers with Linux installed as part of ELCOT initiative. We face many
problems in using the systems to teach our students.

Would be grateful, if anyone in Vilupuram area will visit our school and
help us start using the computers.

Best regards,

Ma Sivakumar
Thiagarajan
2008-05-11 11:46:12 UTC
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Well,
I am also a teacher , handling CS for Higher Secondary,

Since Govt schools got SuSE linux, you have to introduce to the students
about SuSE
For the students , it is learning for the First Time, where us, we
have started from DOS, Unix then GUI at Win 3.1 Win 98,....WinXp ,
So it is easy for the students to learn Linux as first timer.

Then , Our learning system makes us to teach "Based on Book Content" [
The actual teaching should not based on book content ]
So, here are my suggestions.

# For C and C++, use "gcc" compiler, along with editors [ just Google ,
you will get better understanding.]
[ if you have any trouble, i will send you a simple presentation file,
where you can catch it ]

# For Star Office, use OpenOffice.
# For Electroni Work Bench, use "Logisim" [ search , download, install ]
# For HTML, use simple Editors
# For Windows XP , .......nothing to learn.

have a nice day
thiagu
Post by sen kumar
Dear Friends,
I am a teacher in a government school in Viluppuram. We have received
computers with Linux installed as part of ELCOT initiative. We face many
problems in using the systems to teach our students.
Would be grateful, if anyone in Vilupuram area will visit our school and
help us start using the computers.
Best regards,
Ma Sivakumar
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Ramanathan Muthaiah
2008-05-11 13:04:06 UTC
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Post by sen kumar
We face many
problems in using the systems to teach our students.
Would be grateful, if anyone in Vilupuram area will visit our school and
help us start using the computers.
Can we, in ILUGC, take turns to visit the site and help out these folks ?

If anyone is willing to join me, we can plan for our first visit next
weekend (weekdays it's not possible for me due to commitments in day
work). Of course, the teachers and students should be available during
our weekend visit.
--
regards
Ramanathan
Mohan L
2008-05-12 04:31:19 UTC
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Post by Ramanathan Muthaiah
Can we, in ILUGC, take turns to visit the site and help out these folks ?
If anyone is willing to join me, we can plan for our first visit next
weekend (weekdays it's not possible for me due to commitments in day
work). Of course, the teachers and students should be available during
our weekend visit.
--
regards
Ramanathan
Hi,
My native place is also near to villupuram. If you instrested to
visit the site and help out those folks.I will join with you.

Thanks
L.mohan
சிவகுமார் மா
2008-05-12 10:09:22 UTC
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Post by Mohan L
Post by Ramanathan Muthaiah
Can we, in ILUGC, take turns to visit the site and help out these folks ?
If anyone is willing to join me, we can plan for our first visit next
weekend (weekdays it's not possible for me due to commitments in day
work). Of course, the teachers and students should be available during
our weekend visit.
Hi,
My native place is also near to villupuram. If you instrested to
visit the site and help out those folks.I will join with you.
Thanks
L.mohan
Mohan, Ramanathan

I also told Mr. Senthil that if he can arrange a group of teachers, I will
travel to Vilupuram this Sunday for the first session. If we can go as a
group, it would be very effective.

I am trying to contact Mr. Senthil through the people who organized the
Padhivar Pattarai. I will send the contact details as soon as I get them.

anbudan,

Ma Sivakumar
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Unknown
2008-05-11 13:26:32 UTC
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Post by sen kumar
Dear Friends,
I am a teacher in a government school in Viluppuram. We have received
computers with Linux installed as part of ELCOT initiative. We face many
problems in using the systems to teach our students.
Hi,

It was also proposed that there will be training to the staffs by
ELCOT and it appeared that they outsourced it to some one.

What's the Status?

Being may, Its likely that all schools around will be having Holidays.
Will it be possible for you to convene a meeting of all Staffs in and
around Vilupuram to assemble, on one day.

Hope everyone will be facing similar issues. That will make it even easier.
--
Aamachu
Bharathi Subramanian
1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC
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Post by Unknown
Post by sen kumar
I am a teacher in a government school in Viluppuram. We have
received computers with Linux installed
Being may, Its likely that all schools around will be having
Holidays. Will it be possible for you to convene a meeting of all
It is very difficult to convince every-one to come to single place
on holiday that too with-out TA,DA, ...:) My suggection is invite
the OP to NRC-FOSS to spend few days over there to understand the
basics of "SUSE" Distro.

Bye :)
--
Bharathi S
Kenneth Gonsalves
2008-05-12 02:20:47 UTC
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Post by Bharathi Subramanian
Post by Unknown
Post by sen kumar
I am a teacher in a government school in Viluppuram. We have
received computers with Linux installed
Being may, Its likely that all schools around will be having
Holidays. Will it be possible for you to convene a meeting of all
It is very difficult to convince every-one to come to single place
on holiday that too with-out TA,DA, ...:) My suggection is invite
the OP to NRC-FOSS to spend few days over there to understand the
basics of "SUSE" Distro.
NRC-FOSS could supply some TA-DA
--
regards
kg
http://lawgon.livejournal.com
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/code/
சிவகுமார் மா
2008-05-12 04:07:39 UTC
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Friends,

The mail was typed in by me when I was in Vilupuram on May 12, 2008 to
participate in a Valaipadhivar Pattarai.

We helped the participants to create Email accounts, blogger accounts and
learn to read and write in Tamil. Towards the end of the day, I started
talking about Tamil operating systems and brought up Linux.

Atleast half a dozen persons immediately started showing interest. Mr.
Senthil is one of them.

Schools have received computers, no one to teach them how to use. They want
to install Windows if possible. The department says, you do whatever you
want, we will not question. But the teachers are not taking any risks. In
many places computers are kept unused.

I am sure similar conditions prevail in other parts of the state also. I
suggested to Mr. Senthil to send a mail to ILUGC and typed the gp message
from his email account (newly created).

Mr. Senthil promised that he will arrange a meeting of teachers from all the
schools in the area for a training session. I have suggested that we can
solve their problems in one or two sittings and get the computers working in
the schools.

I am not sure, whether he is conversant with emails and mailing list
communications. We need to do something before the new school year begins.

Best regards,

Ma Sivakumar
Post by Kenneth Gonsalves
Post by Unknown
Post by Unknown
Post by sen kumar
I am a teacher in a government school in Viluppuram. We have
received computers with Linux installed
Being may, Its likely that all schools around will be having
Post by Unknown
Holidays. Will it be possible for you to convene a meeting of all
It is very difficult to convince every-one to come to single place
on holiday that too with-out TA,DA, ...:) My suggection is invite
the OP to NRC-FOSS to spend few days over there to understand the
basics of "SUSE" Distro.
NRC-FOSS could supply some TA-DA
--
regards
kg
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http://nrcfosshelpline.in/code/
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ஸ்ரீ ராமதாஸ்
2008-05-12 07:24:47 UTC
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Post by சிவகுமார் மா
I am not sure, whether he is conversant with emails and mailing list
communications. We need to do something before the new school year begins.
Just need to have one info.

What happened to training program initiated by ELCOT for these staffs?

Didn't it happen at all?

Want to know this for information.

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Sri Ramadoss M
Srinivasan Sundararajan
2008-05-12 07:59:19 UTC
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Post by ஸ்ரீ ராமதாஸ்
What happened to training program initiated by ELCOT for these staffs?
Didn't it happen at all?
Want to know this for information.
sometime, ignorance is bliss.
Srinivasan.
சிவகுமார் மா
2008-05-12 10:06:59 UTC
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Ramadoss,

vaNakkam.
Post by ஸ்ரீ ராமதாஸ்
Just need to have one info.
What happened to training program initiated by ELCOT for these staffs?
Didn't it happen at all?
The teachers did not get any training it seems. They say they are not able
to install any programs from the CD provided by ELCOT themselves.

அன்புடன்,

மட சிவகுமடர்
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ஸ்ரீ ராமதாஸ்
2008-05-12 10:19:58 UTC
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Post by சிவகுமார் மா
The teachers did not get any training it seems. They say they are not able
to install any programs from the CD provided by ELCOT themselves
சன்றி.

அப்போ இ஀ையும் விசடரியுங்களேன்.

எச்஀ வகுப்புக்கு இவையெல்லடம்?

ஏன்னட இ஀ே சிலைமை஀டனே இங்கே குரோம்பேட்டையிலும், ஀டம்பரம் சடனடோரிய஀்஀ுலையும் சிலவும்.

இங்கே அப்படி யடரடச்சும் இருக்கடங்களடன்னு படர்஀்஀ு அவங்களை அணுகி பிரச்சனைக்கு ஀ீர்வு கடண இயலு
ம்.

-- ஆமடச்சு
சிவகுமார் மா
2008-05-12 10:53:30 UTC
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Mr. Senthil (9842377002) telephoned me. He said that, discussing with CEO,
he will try to arrange a training session for teachers in the district
during the first week of June (after schools reopen).

I told him that others from ILUGS and NRCFOSS might contact him for making
plans.

As immediate activity, he is eager to put the computers in their school (Sri
Nataraja Middle School) into use. Let us make further plans and visit
Viluppuram this weekend. Teachers from other nearby schools may also come
for training.

===Giving tamil translation also for the benefit of the school teachers if
and when they start participating in these discussions==

஀ிரு செச்஀ில் ஀ொலைபேசினடர். ஀லைமை கல்வி அ஀ிகடரியிடம் உடனடியடக பேசி விடுவ஀டக
சொன்னடர். ஜூன் மு஀ல் வடரம் எல்லட பள்ளி ஆசிரியர்களையும் ஀ிரட்டி ஒரு பயிற்சி
வகுப்பு சட஀்஀ ஏற்படடு செய்யலடம் என்று சொன்னடர்.

உடனடி சடவடிக்கையடக வரும் ஞடயிற்றுக் கிஎமை (மே 18, 2008) அவர஀ு பள்ளியில்
(ஞ்ரீ சடரடஜட சடுசிலை பள்ளி) இருக்கும் கணினியில் அவருக்கு஀் ஀ேவையடன஀ை கற்றுக்
கொள்ள ஆர்வமடக இருக்கிறடர். அருகில் இருக்கும் பிற பள்ளிகளிலும் ஆசிரியர்கள்
ஊரில் இருச்஀டல் அவர்களும் கலச்஀ு கொள்வடர்கள்.

வரும் சடட்களில் ஀ிட்டமிட்டு வடர இறு஀ியில் விஎுப்புரம் போக முயற்சிப்போம்.

அன்புடன்,

மட சிவகுமடர்
Post by ஸ்ரீ ராமதாஸ்
இங்கே அப்படி யடரடச்சும் இருக்கடங்களடன்னு படர்஀்஀ு அவங்களை அணுகி
பிரச்சனைக்கு ஀ீர்வு கடண இயலு
ம்.
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Srinivasan Sundararajan
2008-05-12 07:59:46 UTC
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Post by சிவகுமார் மா
I am not sure, whether he is conversant with emails and mailing list
communications. We need to do something before the new school year begins.
I hope you have seen my mails -- sent after you had submitted yours.

If I could get in touch with Mr. Senthil and other teachers, we could
organize some useful activity.
Srinivasan.
Project Scientist, NRCFOSS
Tel: 044-2223 2711/4885 / 6958/6959
94443 02439
சிவகுமார் மா
2008-05-12 10:11:46 UTC
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Post by Srinivasan Sundararajan
I hope you have seen my mails -- sent after you had submitted yours.
If I could get in touch with Mr. Senthil and other teachers, we could
organize some useful activity.
Srinivasan.
Project Scientist, NRCFOSS
Tel: 044-2223 2711/4885 / 6958/6959
94443 02439
Yes Sir.

I will get the contact details of Mr. Senthil and other teachers. They all
took my cards and phone numbers, I was in a hurry to leave and did not take
their numbers :-(. Hope to get them by this evening.

anbudan,

Ma Sivakumar
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எல்லோரும் எல்லடமும் பெற வேண்டும்
http://masivakumar.blogspot.com
Srinivasan Sundararajan
2008-05-12 05:28:15 UTC
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I have checked with Ms. Nirmala, HoD /CSE of IFET, Villupuram. She is
willing to help out, but is busy with some official work for next 2-3 days.
I have also requested her to consider organizing a 2-3 day FOSS workshop for
school teachers in that area in her college. We should be able to convince
the management too.

If I could get the Villupuram school contact numbers / names, I could put
them on to Ms. Nirmala to initiate direct interaction.

Any other suggestions for NRCFOSS/ILUG-C joint actions are also welcome.

Srinivasan, NRCFOSS.
Srinivasan Sundararajan
2008-05-12 04:52:15 UTC
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Post by Kenneth Gonsalves
NRC-FOSS could supply some TA-DA
am checking with some of the lecturers around that part. will get back
after checking up with the local experts.

in the meantime, we can take up Bharathi's suggestion. We could organize a
few days' training session for 2-3 lecturers at NRCFOSS, AU-KBC Research
Center.

we are also planning some training programme (towards last week of May) at
Anna Univ, Trichy. Can give you a clear picture about it in a few days.

Srinivasan
Project Scientist, NRCFOSS
Tel: 044-2223 2711/4885 / 6958/6959
94443 02439
adhi varadarajan
2008-05-12 00:28:49 UTC
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Hi !

I am Varadarajan from Ottawa, Canada.

I am very closely following developments in TN regarding Linux and open source.

Please let me know if you are still having issues regarding usage of Linux and open source.

I will try to mobilise some help for you.

Cheers

Varadarajan
Ottawa, Canada

sen kumar <jaisent08-***@public.gmane.org> wrote: Dear Friends,

I am a teacher in a government school in Viluppuram. We have received
computers with Linux installed as part of ELCOT initiative. We face many
problems in using the systems to teach our students.

Would be grateful, if anyone in Vilupuram area will visit our school and
help us start using the computers.

Best regards,

Ma Sivakumar
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Thiagarajan Natarajan
2008-05-12 01:36:14 UTC
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Well,
I am also a teacher , handling CS for Higher Secondary,

Since Govt schools got SuSE linux, you have to introduce to the students
about SuSE
For the students , it is learning for the First Time, whereas, we have
started from DOS, Unix then GUI at Win 3.1 Win 98,....WinXp, Vista etc... ,
leads to comparison than learning. Eventually , it is easy for the students
to learn Linux as first timer.

Then , Our learning system makes us to teach "As it is in the Book" [ The
actual teaching should not be "as is" ]

So, here are my suggestions.

# For C and C++, use "gcc" compiler, along with editors [ just Google , you
will get better understanding.]
[ if you have any trouble, i will send you a simple presentation to give
basic idea ]
# For Star Office, use OpenOffice.
# For Electroni Work Bench, use "Logisim" [ search , download, install ]
# For HTML, use simple Editors
# For Windows XP , .......leave it to the students, they will understand.


have a nice day
thiagu
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